Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Game 21 Thread: April 23 vs. Snakes, 7p

Derek Lowe (1-1) vs. Dan Haren (3-0).

COMMENTS: Oh, where to begin. Lowe has given the Dodgers three quality starts in four attempts, but has only won the game in which the Dodgers knocked in 11 runs. But the Dodgers who we just saw limp out of a 1-4 roadtrip could muster only one run in four of their last five games (according to Rick Monday last nignt, Larry Bowa felt "lonely" at the third base box, having been visited only two times all night). If we're 1-4 against the weakest Braves arms and the impotent Reds, it's not a stretch to think that Haren, who is on fire since coming over to the D-backs this year, will mow us down no matter what lineup Torre trots out there.

Even still, we'll be cheering along. Go Dodgers!

UPDATE: Andruw Jones is 10-for-64 this year. If he can bat 4-for-4 tonight (from the two-hole, no less), he'll complete his March Toward Mendoza! (yeah, right).

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Orel said...

Epale, everybody! The lineup:

Furcal, SS
Jones, CF
Ethier, LF
Nomar, 3B
Martin, C
Loney, 1B
Kemp, RF
Hu, 2B
Lowe, P

Jones batting second. I see Torre is still trying the throw-everything-at-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks approach.

Steve Sax said...

There had better be a lot of velcro on that wall to support Jones, then.

Steve Sax said...

Where is Kent?

What is Nomar and his .158 average doing in the cleanup spot?

What is Jones and his .156 average doing in the two-hole (neither speed nor hitting)?

This is infuriating.

Orel said...

Letterman in a Suit of Velcro (SFW)

Orel said...

The Diamondbacks have the best winning percentage in the majors (.750).

Steve Sax said...

The Dodgers have the fifth-worst winning percentage (or, put another way, fifth-best LOSING percentage) in the majors (.400).

Orel said...

Immovable object, meet unstoppable force.

Eric Karros said...

Actually it's more like extremely movable object, meet unstoppable force.

Steve Sax said...

Apparently he's movable up to the two-hole

Steve Sax said...

And the over/under on 322 is?

I say, under.

Eric Karros said...

If he doesn't start performing soon, he won't be in any hole.

Eric Karros said...

...that's what she said.

Eric Karros said...

Well let's see, we're at 13 comments and it's still 2 hours before tip-off. I still say under though.

karina said...

Epale, gentlemen!

Joe Torre mantra:
"Find a place for Jones and Pierre in the lineup, then move the world"

Steve Sax said...

Wait, there's a game tonight?

Eric Karros said...

Yes, I don't see why we don't have "off-day" threads as well

Eric Karros said...

Epale Karina!

Orel said...

Don't forget the Lakers game is on too. Should be good for a few posts.

Eric Karros said...

But alas I won't be joining the thread tonight, I am just stopping by to say hello

karina said...

Yep. But if you are not interested, maybe we can discuss deeply our ideas for the Juan Pierre cards.

Orel said...

Epale, Karina! At least Pierre isn't starting tonight.

Orel said...

C'mon, EK. Who needs sleep?

Eric Karros said...

The Pierre cards would probably have a market value of around $2, so we should charge $400.

karina said...

of course! because we're all very nice and hardworking people. Besides we'll be putting a lot of effort making those cards.

Those reasons totally worth the overpriced cards.

Orel said...

Ned Colletti just called, put him down for $45M worth of cards.

Eric Karros said...

I wish I didn't need sleep. But next time there's a 4pm PST start, I'll be there.

Anyhow gotta run, will try to stop by later -

Orel said...

In case you feel bad about the Dodgers: Tigers are 2-10 and have some clubhouse turmoil.

Steve Sax said...

EK, make sure to tell your stylist to leave the sideburns the same length, but just thin them out a bit.

Talk to you on the other side!

karina said...

Awful...then i had that image of Miguel Cabrera letting short-range left field hits becoming triples...at least he owns a sweeeeet swing. I've heard that swing and it's like a choir of angels.

Orel said...

Sax, what is this "other side" you keep referencing?

Orel said...

What does Andruw Jones' swing sound like?

Steve Sax said...

Andruw Jones' swing sounds like my air conditioner, an oscillating fan.

karina said...

It doesn't sound because he doesn't hit the ball.

Steve Sax said...

Once again, the pre-game show sucks on KABC. Unless we've got a new player with the last name "Hamas".

Steve Sax said...

Oh wait, they may be talking about garbanzo beans.

Steve Sax said...

Yay, the pre-game show is now on!

Steve Sax said...

"We need to get some attitude going and start kicking somebody's butt."--Rudy Law, on the pre-game show

Rick Monday deftly turns his pre-game interview into a name drop of when he met Ernie Banks. Thanks, Rick! It's all about you!

Steve Sax said...

They had better give Rudy Lawe a croton watch, because he earned it having to listen to Rick talk about himself.

Eric Karros said...

I hear you, Sax. In my book, croutons are a must-have in any salad.

Eric Karros said...

Anyways enjoy the game, good luck Dodgers, hope to read about a victory tomorrow -

Erin said...

40 comments before the game even starts? You guys are really going for it tonight. I'll be watching the game, but on mute (which sucks, since I'll miss Vin), since I'm trying to do some work during the game.

Oh, and no Red Sox updates during the game tonight. They already lost to the stupid Angels, 6-4.

Erin said...

Andruw Jones is a waste of space, and I'm really getting annoyed. Popping up a 3-1 pitch? Ugh.

Lasorda said...

Lasorda will be in the House (as soon as the helipad at the Lasorsa Estate is cleared).

Alex Cora said...

HI EVERYBODY! (a la Dr Nick Riviera)

Alex Cora said...

Furcal trying to do everything himself. single steal steal

Alex Cora said...

NOOOMAAAAA'!!!! Dodgers 1-0

Alex Cora said...

Free James Loney (from his slump)! Dodgers up 2-0

karina said...

I feel like i'm dreaming. They've scored 2 runs in the first inning...against Haren!

Alex Cora said...

Nice stab by Loney to get that DP.

karina said...

1,2,3...

Alex Cora said...

Lakers are on! GO LA!

Alex Cora said...

Wow, the boo birds are out at Dodger stadium for Jones. That was a weak swing by Jones, he is really getting fooled up there.

karina said...

another Jones pop out...3 weeks into the season and i'm already tired of Andruw Jones.

I'd wish i could eat my words later in the season?

why Torre doesn't play Young once in a while?

karina said...

I don't really like that kind of behavior towards a player of the home team...but he deserves it, he looks like he doesn't care...

Alex Cora said...

Another 2 out RBI chance for the dodgers.

karina said...

One positive aspect: they are all working the counts.

karina said...

Hail to King James!!!!!!!

Alex Cora said...

WOOHOOO!! Clutch 2 out hit, Nice work on that fastball. Great job James!

Alex Cora said...

Yup, I agree - taking Haren deep in the count is great. Vin keeps saying they are fouling haren's pitches off, making him more frustrated.

Alex Cora said...

When's the last time Derek Lowe washed that hat?

karina said...

as long as he keeps pitching like that, he could do whatever he pleases...

Alex Cora said...

He was a little shaky that inning, but he is still pitching well. That sweat stain is at the middle of the "A" in LA. By the end of the year, think it will be at the top of the "L"?

Alex Cora said...

HHHHHUUUUUU!

Alex Cora said...

Nice 2 strike bunt by Lowe.

karina said...

i think it'll surpass the L to the right side, maybe it could start a trend of lighter/darker shade of dodger blue on the caps...

EWW!

Alex Cora said...

Jones looks SO LOST up there. Man, just sit him.

Orel said...

What's going on here? We're winning!

Of course, as soon as I type that, Stephen Drew homers. Still, 3-1 Dodgers.

Alex Cora said...

Shades of Wrigley - throw that homer back!

karina said...

if Andruw Jones keeps reaching higher and higher levels of suckiness, i guess the LA booing will be heard all the way down to Florida.

Alex Cora said...

Great marketing idea! Bi-colored sweat stained caps by New Era. maybe that is the LA caps they are giving away against colorado.

Orel said...

Hmmm, GameCast tells me we've left Martin on third twice so far tonight. Hope that doesn't come back to bite us.

Orel said...

Karina, you'll hear the booing in Maracaibo.

Alex Cora said...

Lakers pulling away in the 2nd quarter.

Orel said...

Meanwhile, Lakers 50, Nugs 39.

Orel said...

Men on 1st & 2nd w/no out. Go Russell!

karina said...

another positive thing tonight: the baby blue have been hitting and getting BB.

FREE THE BABY BLUE!

Alex Cora said...

Love Vin. Wouldn't you like to be able to start a sentence saying "I asked Warren Spahn..."

Orel said...

Hit & run causes Martin to swing at a neck-high fastball. And he fouled it off!

Orel said...

Haren's 100th pitch...ball 2.

Orel said...

Yeah, but when Rick Monday does it, it's name-dropping.

Orel said...

Martin K's on the off-speed stuff. 5 K's for Haren.

Alex Cora said...

I hope we open this lead up against Haren. I dont want to face Cruz.

Orel said...

Uh-oh, Park's in the pen.

Orel said...

Would they bring in Cruz in a losing situation?

Alex Cora said...

Park is warming up????? Uh Oh.

Orel said...

Loney pegs it but straight at Chris Young. Matt Kemp, time for you to bust out!

Orel said...

Hell yeah! Single by Kemp + (E-8) = 4-1 Dodgers!

Orel said...

Bye bye, Haren! Good job, boys!

Orel said...

Jimmy Smits is wearing a Dodgers cap (albeit a black one) at the Lakers game!

Damon said...

This is whats it's like to score runs.

karina said...

I'm glad he did! maybe Joe Torre will realize Kemp can hit to tough righties

Orel said...

Juan Cruz in for the D'backs, just like you said, AC.

karina said...

Maybe the fact Haren didn't dominate them, gives them some confidence.

Alex Cora said...

Colorado losing to the cubs in the 10th.

Orel said...

Don't get used to it, Damon.

Orel said...

Go Cubbies!

Orel said...

HU LOVES YA BABY!!!

Alex Cora said...

I really want to see a play at the plate with Kemp running over the catcher.

Orel said...

Torre heard you, Karina. Here's Delwyn Young.

Alex Cora said...

Hu did it!?!

karina said...

Who drove the run in? (sorry, i couldn't help it!)

Damon said...

Kemp's uni looks like JP's today

Orel said...

Delwyn K's, but Dodgers lead 6-1!

Orel said...

Lakers up 10 at the half.

karina said...

Baby steps, Orel. Maybe he'll start listening to me about some other issues concerning the team. Is it too risky if he starts Young sometime? maybe he could hit the ball outside the infield...just an idea...

Orel said...

Kemp is rockin' the knee-highs, it's true.

Alex Cora said...

CUBS WIN CUBS WIN!!!!

karina said...

that's lovely! those knee highs look so adorable!

Orel said...

Erin, looks like the flu helped the Angels too.

Orel said...

Chan Ho is in and Vin's talking about the 2-GS Tatis game!

Alex Cora said...

How many home runs will Park give up tonight?

Orel said...

Lowe yanked after 67 pitches. Hope he's okay.

Orel said...

Over-under on Park HRs is 2.

Orel said...

Karina, do you think Kemp was going for the adorable look?

Not a bad inning for Chan Ho. One or two more would be nice!

Orel said...

Should we sign Furcal to an extension? Thoughts, anyone?

karina said...

I don't think he wanted to look adorable, but before my eyes he does.

San Diego winning over the dark side 1-0. Why did they let Maddux go?

Orel said...

Boy, Furcal smoked that one, but unfortunately right at Jackson.

Orel said...

Jones is 0-for-4. When will this nightmare end?

karina said...

Furcal is still young and he could keep having good seasons. Why not signing him for a couple of seasons?

karina said...

what's the deal with these Andres' Madres?

Orel said...

Why did the Dodgers let Maddux go? I think his agent was asking for a two- or three-year deal, which Colletti thought was too long. He ended up putting the $$$ toward Schmidt.

karina said...

a second in the order who has struck out twice, so far

Orel said...

Furcal will want a 4- or 5-year deal. he will cost, what, $15M/year? (He's getting $13M/year right now.) Still, he's been a major bright spot for us and has earned a big(ger) payday.

karina said...

I'd wish "howlers" were for real. I'd send Colletti a couple in a heartbeat.

Orel said...

Andres' Madres?

karina said...

Molina homered at 9th, tying the game. Maddux lost his chance to win his 350th.

the dark side, the dark side...

Orel said...

Uh-oh, D-bax w/men on 2nd & 3rd and no out. Looks like Chan Ho is making up for last inning.

Orel said...

Vin says Lowe has right-elbow tightness.

karina said...

I read about it somewhere, a few days ago...maybe is an Andre Ethier fan club?, but i guess what it intrigues me is the word "Madres"

Orel said...

Considering the standings, the dark side is helping us out tonight.

Orel said...

Park out, Beimel in.

karina said...

mixed feelings: it could help us, but don't you wish they'll be eliminated by June?.

Orel said...

Howlers?

Andre's Madres? Andre's Mothers? Andre's Mamas?

Damon said...

Everyone get their Beimel bobble heads out

Orel said...

Karina, the Giants will finish last in the division. Guaranteed. Any help they can give us is welcome.

Orel said...

Beimel induces a pop-up. Somewhere, Troy from West Virginia is celebrating.

Orel said...

Probably in West Virginia.

Orel said...

Merde, RBI single. And we got lucky because Upton only took third. 6-2 Blue.

Here comes Torre again....

Alex Cora said...

We need a double play.

Alex Cora said...

Lakers only up by one now.

Orel said...

I wonder when the Padres will stop using Hoffman as their closer.

Alex Cora said...

Bull Broxton is in. Lets go big man!

Alex Cora said...

It always seems that Broxton is wearing a kids size small jersey out there he is so big.

Orel said...

Broxton walks Montero, who's from Venezuela!

Orel said...

Broxton K's Young! One more to go!

karina said...

and a Caciques de Margarita player.

Alex Cora said...

Some tense baseball here. Come on Broxton!

Orel said...

bases loaded...full count...

karina said...

Howlers is an artifact from the Harry Potter world and yep, Andres' Madres is Andres' Mothers, unless it's a group of middle aged women who'd like Ethier marry one of their daughters...

Orel said...

Pop-up! Broxton is clutch tonight! Still 6-2 Dodgers.

Orel said...

Meanwhile, Lakers back up by 8.

Alex Cora said...

PHEW! we get out of that jam.

Orel said...

First it's Spanish lessons, now it's Harry Potter lore. I learn something new every day here!

Karina, this is L.A.—Andre's Madres could well be a group of single mothers looking to marry Andre.

karina said...

LOL! but if that was the intention, wouldn't it be creepy for him? i mean, how would you react if you had a bunch of women wanting to marry you at the same time?

well, maybe i'm taking inspiration of my mom, she once saw him and said: "that's a fine looking young man", mothers...

Orel said...

Question: Is Matt Kemp a five-tool player?

hitting for average: close
hitting for power: check
baserunning skills and speed: speed yes, still working on the skills
throwing ability: yes
fielding abilities: close

So I'd say someday. He's a work in progress.

karina said...

from Harry Potter lexicon:

Howler: A Howler is a nasty letter sent to tell someone off. It arrives in a red envelope, smoking slightly. It must be opened immediately or it explodes. Upon opening, the Howler screams at the recipient in a voice magically magnified for maximum effect. Students at Hogwarts occasionally receive Howlers from their parents.

wouldn't you love to send one of those to Colletti?

Orel said...

"how would you react if you had a bunch of women wanting to marry you at the same time?"

Karina, it's tough sometimes but I get by.

Alex Cora said...

Come on blake make em pay for walking Hu.

karina said...

Orel, you have a very polite way to call me a geek.

Orel said...

I'd like to send a howler to the entire Diamondbacks organization. Stop making us look bad!

Steve Sax said...

Brox was nails to end the seventh--but in the bottom of the inning, Hu blows a chance to see a Bison attack at home plate.

Orel said...

From one geek to another!

My wife thinks Delwyn Young is quite good-looking. And don't get her started on former Dodger Brian Jordan....

karina said...

Way to go, Orel! It's awesome you have great skills managing those kind of women!

Orel said...

Kobe to Gasol is a thing of beauty.

Orel said...

Orlando Hudson is wearing the rare double-flapped batting helmet. Must be a switch-hitter.

Alex Cora said...

Vin is telling the conner jackson story again about he passed up a chance at the cycle for the good of the team.

karina said...

I'll refrain to say anything about handsome baseball players, it takes some credibility from me. Though Brian Jordan is a great choice. Delwyn Young played winter baseball here and i heard some stuff from some girls...

Orel said...

Now Broxton's in another spot of trouble. Men on 1st & 2nd w/no out.

Steve Sax said...

Hudson steals second with none out, but Brox walks the batter anyway. 1st and 2nd, none out.

Orel said...

If talking like that detracts from our credibility, we're all in trouble....

karina said...

like he was handsome and that kind of stuff, anything else...

Damon said...

Lets go Big Jon

Orel said...

Broxton gets Reynolds with some nasty off-speed stuff! 1 out.

Damon said...

My Aunt has/had a crush on Karros

karina said...

Well, it's not the same if you start talking about how pretty Erin Andrews is, if i'd say that ANY player is handsome, people start saying: you watch the games because you are only checking out boys wearing tight pants...

i think i told you about my season tickets here, i have people asking me if i'm someone's girlfriend or wife or if i have a crush on somebody...it's annoying....

Orel said...

Things not looking good for tomorrow: Bills doesn't go deep into games and Park and Broxton are likely unavailable, meaning we're looking at Loaiza and/or Proctor in early innings.

Steve Sax said...

That off-speed pitch to Reynolds was NASTY. 1 out, still two on, Upton up to bat.

karina said...

I hope Lowe's elbow isn't something too serious...

Orel said...

Karina, I see what you mean. Rest assured you've established your "baseball cred" with this crowd!

Damon: Fabio!

Orel said...

And in comes Saito for the four-out non-save.

Lakers up by 7 w/6 min. left.

Alex Cora said...

Sammy is in. He needs to shake off the cobwebs and get some outs!

Steve Sax said...

Isn't the "code blue" label on the Coors Light cans the same thing as Generra Hypercolor, in reverse?

It all comes back to the 80s.

Orel said...

Lowe leaves early with elbow soreness: Right-hander not expected to miss next start against Marlins

karina said...

thanks, Orel!

on the notes of my fantasy team, i needed Saito to pitch tonight!

Orel said...

Saito's rusty: a cheapie single makes it 6-3.

Steve Sax said...

Saito does not look sharp. Tying run to the plate with two RISP and two out.

Alex Cora said...

Crap

Orel said...

Dammit, Saito walks the bases loaded. Again.

Orel said...

PHEW

Steve Sax said...

Crap, a walk to load 'em. Come on, Sammy!!!

karina said...

Miguel Montero is coming straight from the DL. He's an out for sure.

karina said...

It's supposed he's not a very good hitter, though a pretty good defensive catcher.

Alex Cora said...

YES!!!!!!!!

Orel said...

Apparently the Giants just escaped a bases-loaded jam of their own.

Orel said...

Yusmeiro Petit is from Maracaibo too!

karina said...

paths connected...as usual...

karina said...

i was about to say that! he's my friend neighbor!

Alex Cora said...

Furcal is awesome - I know he is going to cost a lot of money, but I think we still need to resign him. He has such a passion for the game.

Orel said...

Petit is not so petit.

Steve Sax said...

Wow, the Snakes leave the bases juiced twice in a row. On to the ninth; Saito looks like he doesn't know what to do now that he's in the Dodger dugout. Let's get him up to bat!

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