Thursday, September 27, 2012

Gagne + Math Proves Chin-Feng Chen Very Probably Juiced

Former Dodger Eric Gagne claims 80 percent of his teammates were juicing. Then today, Adrian Beltre, Robin Ventura, and Edwin Jackson commented that they aren't in the 80%:

"He should have mentioned names," Beltre said. "I know for sure I'm not one of them. I haven't read the book. I'm not interested in it. He should have come up with names instead of a percentage."

Beltre, teammates with Gagne when the pitcher won the Cy Young in 2003, said he doesn't have any interest in reading the book, especially when informed it's in French.

"My French is not too good," Beltre said. "Everybody has the right to say whatever they say. If they feel the need to write a book about it, what can I say?"

Gagne first admitted publicly to using HGH in 2010.

In the book, Gagne does not provide any names of players he says used PEDs. Baseball began stricter testing in the spring of 2006. Players are subject to HGH testing during spring training and in the offseason, but not during the season.

Beltre was not the only one to respond to Gagne's claims. Chicago White Sox manager Robin Ventura finished his 16-year career with the Dodgers in 2003-04, playing in a total of 151 games.

"Apparently, I'm the 20 percent," Ventura told "I don't, I mean, I was never around it. So it's just one of those (things) that maybe he knows something I don't."

Doing a very cursory glance at the 2003 and 2004 Dodgers squad, I'm counting 66 players, including Gagne:

  • Paul Lo Duca
  • Fred McGriff
  • Shawn Green
  • Alex Cora
  • Cesar Izturis
  • Adrian Beltre
  • Jeromy Burnitz
  • Jayson Werth
  • Milton Bradley
  • Juan Encarnacion
  • Jolbert Cabrera
  • Mike Kinkade
  • Brian Jordan
  • Ron Coomer
  • Rickey Henderson
  • Wilkin Raun
  • Todd Hundley
  • Larry Barnes
  • Jason Romano
  • Chad Hermenson
  • Bubba Crosby
  • Koyie Hill
  • Daryle Ward
  • Dave Roberts
  • Steve Finley
  • Jose Hernandez
  • Jason Grabowski
  • David Ross
  • Robin Ventura
  • Olmedo Saenz
  • Brent Mayne
  • Hee-Seop Choi
  • Joe Thurston
  • Antonio Perez
  • Chin-Feng Chen
  • Kevin Brown
  • Wilson Alvarez
  • Andy Ashby
  • Paul Shuey
  • Paul Quantrill
  • Scott Mullen
  • Steve Colyer
  • Troy Brohawn
  • Victor Alvarez
  • Tom Wilson
  • Jose Flores
  • Jeff Weaver
  • Odalis Perez
  • Kazuhisa Ishii
  • Jose Lima
  • Hideo Nomo
  • Edwin Jackson
  • Guillermo Mota
  • Duaner Sanchez
  • Brad Penny
  • Elmer Dessens
  • Eric Gagne
  • Brian Falkenborg
  • Giovanni Carrara
  • Yhency Brazoban
  • Darren Dreifort
  • Tom Martin
  • Rodney Myers
  • Mike Venafro
  • Masao Kida
  • Scott Stewart

If you take Gagne out, that leaves 65 players, 52 of whom are juicing. We now can put three of the 65 in the "non-juicing" category. This means of the 62 players left, if 52 of them are juicing, it's now up to an 84% chance that a remaining name is an offender.

I think from this math, we can safely assume that Chin-Feng Chen was juicing. And that probably explains how he popped from a career .000 average in his first three years to a .250 average in his final year (2005). Now I understand.

Someone check my math on this, please.


Mr. LA Sports Czar said...

Eric should probably change his last name to Perdu.

Franklin Stubbs said...

My standard operating procedure is to assume any and all players were juicing in that era.

Paul said...

Gagne you are le garbage and a rat. I spit on yew!

Franklin Stubbs said...

*farts in his general direction*

QuadSevens said...

Now go away Gagne! Or we shall taunt you a second time!

Fernie V said...

Going through that list of players, I couldn't help but think what a crappy group of players.

Fernie V said...

Other then Shawn Green none of those guys hit any home runs.

Other then Olmeda Saenz, remember him, I heard a story they picked him up watching him play softball.

Fernie V said...
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Fernie V said...

And Shawn was on the juice, apple juice.

Fernie V said...

Mind juice, he was cucu, I read his book. Enjoyable until you get the idea that he hated playing at Dodger stadium.

Franklin Stubbs said...

I was very nearly SoSG Olmedo Saenz. I loved that fatass.

QuadSevens said...

"Saenzy" doesn't roll of the tongue the way "Stubbsy" does.

QuadSevens said...


Franklin Stubbs said...

That was one for the "pro-Stubbs" column.

Fernie V said...

Stubbs you would of jumped to the top of my Sons of Steve favorite Sons list.

Franklin Stubbs said...

Well, shit.

If "ifs" were fifths, we'd all be drunk.

Franklin Stubbs said...

Goddamn, if that isn't a parade of futility, though.

spank said...

I want to be Mike Marshall....Or is that Jerry Seinfeld?

Franklin Stubbs said...

Who are these people?

Neeebs (The Original) said...

Pretty sure Cesar Izturis was juicing. I mean, come on now, look at his physique.

rbnlaw said...

I totally believe Duaner Sanchez was on the gear.
Dude was jacked.